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• Gaithersburg Book Festival —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.54.222.129 (talk) 23:12, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

IA "Evacuation" of Public domain resources...

See Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Mass_"Evacuation"_copy_of_Public_domain_resources_from_Internet_Archive_to_Commons. IS this something one of your Bots could assist with, given the scripts F%C3%A6 was using to do User_talk:Fæ/CCE_volumes#Forks?

Problemy po przeniesieniu pliku do innej kategorii

Proszę o radę, jeśli to możliwe. Nie umiałam znaleźć odpowiedzi pomocnej dla mnie na forum dyskusyjnym. Pisałam niedawno do Ciebie na tej stronie, ale wtedy moja nazwa użytkownika była: Eriassim, a podpis Pliszka. Nadal jestem tu nowicjuszką, ale coś już umiem zrobić. Stopniowo przesyłam pliki związane z kategorią „Chapels in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” i jej podkategoriami do Wiki Lubi Zabytki. Przy okazji trochę porządkuję tę kategorię, bo są tam pliki błędnie przypisane, czasem też błędnie opisane. Ostatnio przeniosłam dwa pliki użytkownika Januszk57 z kategorii „Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” do kategorii „Chapel of St. Raphael in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska”, poprawiłam opis i chciałam zrobić też porządek w odwołaniach do tego zdjęcia, np. usunęłam je z listy zabytków na Wikipedii, ponieważ nie przedstawia tego obiektu, przy którym było wpisane (błąd identyfikacji). Zamieniłam je na zdjęcie wykonane przeze mnie.

Pierwsze pytanie dotyczy tego, czy powinnam o tym powiadomić autora zdjęcia, a jeśli tak, to jak to zrobić technicznie? Otworzyłam stronę tego użytkownika, ale nie domyśliłam się, jak się z nim skontaktować. Czy mogę po prostu wpisać notatkę edytując jego stronę? Wysłać mu maila? Czy w ogóle się nie odzywać? Autor od dawna ma konto na Wikimedia Commons i przesyłał wiele plików.

Drugie pytanie dotyczy tego, że jego zdjęcie nadal się wyświetla w infobox (chyba tak się to nazywa) z boku przy otwarciu kategorii „Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” w której już go nie ma. Jak zrobić, żeby przestało się tam wyświetlać? Przy samym zdjęciu jest taka informacja: Wykorzystanie na www.wikidata.org, Q30215906. Chodzi o plik:

• File: 708349 pow wadowicki Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Bernardynska 46 kap wniebowziecia 04.JPG

Mój plik przedstawiający właściwy obiekt to:

• File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska – Kaplice-07002GP.jpg

Piszę do Ciebie nadal po polsku, ponieważ w dziedzinie informatyki nie jestem mocna, więc pisanie po angielsku o tym, czego nie rozumiem po polsku... no, chyba mijałoby się z celem. So I would appreciate your answering in Polish :) Pozdrowienia. Pliszka (talk) 17:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Odpowiedz na pierwsze pytanie: Większość autorów zdjęć jeśli chcą wiedzieć co się dzieje z ich zdjęciami to dodają je do listy stron obserwowanych (ang. watchlist), wiec zazwyczaj nie potrzeba ich informować, bo wiedzą co się zmieniło. Jeśli chcesz się z kimkolwiek komunikować to albo możesz napisać na ich "talkpage" (np. user talk:Eriassim) albo możesz użyć szablonu {{ping|Eriassim}} (@Eriassim:) by ich poinformować że o nich mowa. Maile są rzadko używane, zazwyczaj tylko do tajnej komunikacji.

Co do drugiego pytania. Infoboxy w kategoriach (pionowe po prawej stronie) są dodawane przez szablon {{Wikidata Infobox}}, który wybiera informacje z Wikidata. Np plik w Category:Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska można zmienić, przez zmianę pliku w d:Q30215906#P18. Spróbuj.

Co do mojego pisania po polsku czy angielsku, to czasami zapominam w jakim języku z kim rozmawiam. Na tematy techniczne to dużo łatwiej mi się wysłowić po angielsku, bo od lat 80-dziesiątych mieszkam w Stanach i rzadko mam okazje pisać czy mówić po polsku. --Jarekt (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt Dzięki! Już zrobione :) Na razie zrobiłam edycję jako użytkownik niezalogowany, nie mam konta na Wikidata. Czy można moje obecne konto na Wikimedia Commons rozszerzyć jakoś na inne projekty Wiki? Bo gdy chciałam użyć "Create account" to przy mojej nazwie użytkownika wyświetliło się, że jest zajęta, a wątpię, żeby ktoś inny używał nazwy "Pliszka-GP". Więc pewnie te projekty jakoś się łączą... Gdybyś wolał napisać po angielsku, to tak prostą rzecz chyba bym zrozumiała :) Pozdrowienia. Pliszka (talk) 04:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Pliszka Nazwa użytkownika i hasło są te same na wszystkich projektach. Wiec masz już konto na wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 01:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt Dzięki za wyjaśnienie. To znaczy, że mogę się po prostu zalogować. Wobec tego popróbuję jakoś sobie radzić dalej. Wiesz, wiele moich pytań wynika z tego, że gdy zobaczyłam, jak kategoria Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Monastery jest zorganizowana, to sobie pomyślałam, że przed wrzuceniem plików dobrze byłoby tam zrobić trochę porządku... Ale wszystko było dla mnie nowe. Mam nadzieję, że mimo to zrobiłam porządku więcej, niż zamieszania z pytaniami. Serdeczne dzięki za pomoc i moralne wsparcie :) Pozdrowienia Pliszka (talk) 19:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39

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Recent changes

• There is a new tag for reverted edits. For example you can see it in the recent changes feed or in the article history. It is added to edits when they have been undone, rollbacked or manually reverted to an older version of the page. [1][2]

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• The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [3]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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21:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

File:Everest Expedition 1965 stamp of India.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please would you kindly check that the above image is suitably free for DYK use? The filepage has a template requirement that an administrator check this. (I am currently reviewing a DYK momination template which is using this image). Thank you. Storye book (talk) 15:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting this. Storye book (talk) 16:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

no problem --Jarekt (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Commons - Media Sarch, new feedback round

Greetings,

I'm following up on a message from earlier in the year about the prototype development for Special:MediaSearch. Based on community feedback, the Structured Data team has developed some new features for Special:MediaSearch and are seeking another round of comments and discussions about the tool. Commons:Structured_data/Media_search is updated with details about the new features plus some other development information, and feedback is welcome on Commons talk:Structured_data/Media_search. Media Search works in any language, so the team would especially appreciate input around support for languages other than English. I look forward to reading about what you think. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

PD-Art combined with PD-US-unpublished

Combining {{PD-Art}} with {{PD-US-unpublished}} like {{PD-Art|PD-US-unpublished}} does not yield the ideal result. See for example a good combo (of {{PD-Art}} and {{PD-old-100-expired}}) at File:Matthew Pratt - Mrs. Samuel Powel PAFA1912.12.jpg and compare that to the bad combo at File:Elizabeth Willing (c. 1760).jpg.

Can you resolve this? Or am I doing something wrong? Thank you! --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 03:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Coffeeandcrumbs: It should be Fixed now. --Jarekt (talk) 03:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 03:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading and heading:0

Hi Jarek, a lot of files ended up in Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading because the heading is set to zero. I'm skipping those at the moment because zero and null seem to be mixed. Maybe you can break out these cases in another category so it's easier to clean out Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading? Multichill (talk) 19:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I did noticed at some point that a lot of my photos point north. I guess since I mile having sun at my back during noon time photos. When I was manually adding locations and heading a lot of them ended up with heading:0. Some of those might be correct. But if it helps I can split them. --Jarekt (talk) 02:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Multichill: --Jarekt (talk) 04:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-40

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Recent changes

• Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [4]
• Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [5]

Problems

• Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [6]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes

• You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
• The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
• In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see Apps as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021. [7]
• You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
• You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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21:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Application of US federal law to Commons materials

Hi, Jarek. I've noticed that through your work a number of inappropriately labelled images, mostly from the Nude Depictions of Computer Science category, have had their results moved from first or second to fourth or lower. However, returning images that reasonable people would consider pornographic (eg. images requiring an 18 years or older declaration on Flickr) at any ranking on an otherwise neutral search term appears to be in violation of US federal laws 18 U.S.C. § 2252B and 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. There is no clear policy on Commons regarding the application of US federal law. Are materials on Commons required to conform to US federal laws? Or is the application of these laws limited to child pornography and broadly interpreted copyright law? Interesting questions! - Seazzy (talk) 19:54, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Seazzy As I recall my edits in Nude Depictions of Computer Science category, were part of larger collaboration at one of the conferences where we were trying to reduce "surprise" effect where common searches for computer science terms resulted in return of pornographic images, following w:en:Principle of least astonishment. Commons does have a policy stating that Commons is not censored mirroring similar policy on Wikidata and any minor might run into legally inappropriate material on Wikipedia, Commons or any other Wikimedia project with a notable exception of simple wikipedia which is meant for children, but even this project has an illustrated article about w:simple:Sexual_intercourse. We do have Commons:Child protection (proposed) policy but it is about protecting children from adults trying to meet them. You might also be interested in Commons:Nudity policy and Template:2257, but none of them really address US federal laws 18 U.S.C. § 2252B and 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. I think that thinking is that it should not be a surprise for anybody to find description or depiction of sexual content in encyclopedia, or anatomy books like Category:Gray's Anatomy. --Jarekt (talk) 21:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. The legal issue is not the presence of sexual imagery on Commons, or one of accessing sexual imagery through search terms like "vagina" or "anallingus". It is an issue of intentionally misleading labeling resulting in sexual images appearing in search results for sexually unrelated terms. As it turns out, the principle of least surprise is law in the United States. In the cases of these images, the violation is clear.

Searches for "clover emoji" or "fruit ninja" return sexually explicit imagery. At the same time, users cannot access these images using terms that would bring them to sexual imagery that they desired. For example, this image is the first result for the term "Fruit Ninja". It contains the words "nude" and "naked" in its descriptive data and "vulva" in its depicts, but does not contain the words "pussy", "brunette", "boobs", "tits", "bald", "shaven", or "smooth", as labelled by the original author. It is, however, the redirect from the filename "Fruit Ninja.jpg", and takes pains to describe the game "Fruit Ninja" in its description. This file is the third search result for "clover emoji". It does contain the terms "vulva", "anus" and "buttocks" in depicts. Otherwise, it is described exclusively with technical descriptions of the clover emoji, and does not contain the words "nude", "naked", "ass", "butt", "pussy", "legs", "croatch" (sic), "closeup", "stocking", "whisky", "blonde", "drunk", "alcohol", or "irishyoga", as labelled by the original author. This image is also categorized using the term "Unicode", increasing its visibility for searches unrelated to sexual images.

In this case, the application of US federal law - required for materials hosted on Wikipedia's US-based servers as described under Commons censorship policy - does not mean deleting these images. It does require removing all data that shows these images in search results for non-sexually related terms. Original metadata from the content creator that does relates to sexual subjects would be beneficial to increase search visibility for terms like "blonde pussy" or "brunette ass". Unfortunately, I have been unable to contribute tags like these, as there are many users who would not like to see the descriptions changed - again, in violation of US law. In any case, as there are clear legal reasons for removing misleading data from these images, is it still acceptable to maintain misleading labels and metadata? -Seazzy (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Seazzy, I am for properly labeling images so there is no ambiguity on what you get. I wonder is instead of working on improving labels a better solution would be a search engine algorithms which are aware (based on your search) of your intentions and return "mature audience" images only when someone specifically search for them. This would require the search engine to have binary label porn/not-porn for each image and return porn results only when asked for. As I recall we had those discussions about a decade ago with a photo of someone masturbating with a toothbrush which was included in a category for toothbrushes. There was a big discussion about it which resulted in bizarre categories like Category:Nude or partially nude people with toothbrushes‎ and. That was an early (2011) effort to avoiding surprises in common non-pornographic categories. --Jarekt (talk) 02:18, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

That's an interesting idea, but a new algorithm is impractical in these circumstances and unlikely to occur without major cash investment and significant time - probably years - where the WMF (and likely some Commons users) would knowingly be in violation of the law and subject to investigation and prosecution. In this case, changes to the Flickr Batch Uploader could be a simpler solution for a large number of problematic images. This tool could be updated to automatically block all images that come from galleries requiring 18+ confirmation from appearing in search results - with the exception of safe words such as "pussy", "ass", "anal", "fuck", "horny", etc. This could be accomplished with a simple update. As Flickr is based in the US it is safe to assume that material contained within 18+ galleries would be considered subject to these specific laws. It would also require a crawler to check previously uploaded images, but this task could be easily accomplished with basic code. More dauntingly, there is at least one user involved in the batch uploader project who will likely work hard to prevent this change.

Another option is to ban or limit the right of users who maintain misleading metadata on sexually explicit images. While this will be almost impossible considering the current community, the fact that these users are actively violating US law should make management of their actions mandatory. At the very least, users who misleadingly label images should be banned from creating redirects, modifying filenames, acting as admins or moderators, or contributing descriptive data. Again, this is probably not going to happen considering the current culture on Commons. -Seazzy (talk) 16:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Commons is proudly much more of a wild-west than English wikipedia, and one typically can do anything that is not against one of Commons policiees. And Commons have very few policies. However I belive we do have policy that images have to be legal in the US and I agree that some of the images with misleading descriptions seem to violate 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. Maybe we should raise this issue at Commons:Village pump. --Jarekt (talk) 04:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-41

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Recent changes

• There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
• You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [8]

Problems

• There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [9]
• Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [10]
• Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
• Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [11]

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [12]

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16:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Vl port.JPG

Yours sincerely, Ariadacapo (talk) 13:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)