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Foto

Visto le numerose foto rimosse, non metterò più foto che trovo su facebook (che sono foto libere di essere prese perchè ho sempre chiesto il permesso all'autore). Alberto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alberto Davide Lorenzi (talk • contribs)

Translated: Given the numerous photos removed, I will not post more photos that I find on facebook (which are photos free to be taken because I have always asked the author for permission). Alberto. VScode fanboy (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Requesting support

New year greetings,

Earlier in Octo.2020 @ village pump Copyright received your positive response for assistance in uploading old images from a research paper in PDF but the web link did not open then.

Now I find a new PDF link @ academia.edu

Subsequently after some wait resource request @ Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange got positive response that 2 images are already on commons and with assistance is now needed in uploading 4 images according to following info.:

Page number and image numbers in bracket: 244(8.2), 252(8.3), 254(8.4), 259(8.6) of new PDF link @ academia.edu ( For article en:Superstitions in Muslim societies )

8.2: Better image here

8.3: Better image here

8.4: Better image here (on the dropdown at the top of the image viewer, select "f. 38 b")

8.6: Better images here

8.2, 8.3, 8.4 are certainly out of copyright, as understood by Commons policy; they're either super-old two-dimensional works,... 8.6 consists of photos (of a three-dimensional work) over which the Smithsonian claims copyright, and so may still be copyrighted (need to be confirmed for copyright status).

I do not find myself technically competent to complete activity on my own hence Requesting your kind assistance in above respect.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 05:15, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bookku,

I will look into that, but it may take some time. --Túrelio (talk) 13:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, I hope I am not making request too early again. It's not that it is too urgent, and you can take your time, but it is quite likely that I might forget myself over a period of time. Since I was visiting commons thought it's better to drop in a message.

Thanks for your support and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 10:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Biographien

Guten Tag. Beschaeftige mich hier seit Jahren als IP mit verschieden Biographien, vor allem betreffend Zweite Polnische Republik. Bei Bearbeitung der Vermissten Personen baue ich ein Info über den zuletzt bekannten Verbleib der Person ein (weil man soetwas in wikidata nicht einbauen kann oder ich habe keine Ahnung wie man es tut). Solche Infos werden sehr oft von "User:Микола Василечко" enfernt und revertiert. Es gibt Biographien mit sehr seltenen Nachnamen die wirkliche "Einzelstuecke" bei der Wikiprogrammen sind und deswegen existieren keine automatischen Kategorien fuer eben solche seltene Namen. Fuer solche Faelle benutze ich die Schablone "DEFAULTSORT:Nachname, Vorname" damit alles richtig kategorisiert wird ... und hier das naechtste Problem : "User:Микола Василечко" enfernt diese defaultsort Schablone und danach es wird nach dem Vornamen kategorisiert. Wenn er schon so etwas tut dann soll er auch dafuer sorgen das die Dateien (die von ihm revertiert werden) nach dem Nachnamen kategorisiert werden. Da ich systematisch mit Bibliothek und Buch-Quellen arbeite ist wirklich sehr schaedigend wenn ich immer wieder in meiner Arbeit zurueckgeworfen werde. Falls Sie nicht in der Lage sind weiter zuhelfen dann leiten Sie es bitte an jemanden der es kann. Hier einige Beispiele: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. Vielen Dank. Gruesse. 2A01:C22:8448:7100:1C55:E597:187C:264D 13:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Translated (formatting and links omitted): Good day. I've been dealing with various biographies here for years as an IP, mainly concerning the Second Polish Republic. When processing the missing persons, I include information about the last known whereabouts of the person (because you can't include something like that in wikidata or I have no idea how to do it). Such info is very often removed and reversed by "User:Микола Василечко". There are biographies with very rare surnames that are really "one offs" in the wiki programs and therefore there are no automatic categories for such rare names. For such cases I use the template "DEFAULTSORT:lastname, firstname" so that everything is categorized correctly ... and here the next problem : "User:Микола Василечко"and after that it is categorized by first name . If he is already doing something like this, then he should also ensure that the files (which are reverted by him ) are categorized by last name . Since I work systematically with library and book sources, it is really very damaging when I keep getting thrown back in my work. If you are unable to help further then please forward it to someone who can. Here are some examples: [1] , [2] , [3] , [4] , [5] , [6] , [7] . Thanks very much. Regards. VScode fanboy (talk) 14:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Open deletion requests

Hello Túrelio, firstly thank you for your speedy deletion logs and deletion requests process. Commons:Deletion requests#Lists of requests Here, there has been a lot of request waiting to be closed since June 2020. For example, there are some requests will be closed what I opened since September 2020. As Commons admins, can you reduce these? Of course, you can't do it alone, I think some Commons admins can it together. Sorry if I'm worrying unnecessarily for deletion requests. Regards. Uncitoyen (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Photos of Mother Teresa for the Mother Teresa Center

+ LDM Dear Túrelio, Greetings of peace! I am contacting you from The Mother Teresa Center. The Mother Teresa of Calcutta Center (MTC) is a non–profit organization established and directed by the Missionaries of Charity (Religious Order Mother Teresa founded) to promote deeper knowledge of Mother Teresa’s life, work, holiness, spirituality and message through the preparation and publication of her authentic writings, distribution of devotional materials, maintaining of a website, etc. For more information, please visit www.motherteresa.org . The MTC is an extension of the Office of the Postulation of Mother Teresa which was responsible for bringing to completion her process of canonization (sainthood). We came across your beautiful two photos of Mother Teresa at a pro-life meeting in 1986 in Bonn, Germany on July 13, 1986 and are incredibly touched by the incredible way you have captured Mother in this image. We are contacting you now to request you to share a copy of these photos for our records and also permission to use if needed for our MTC projects to spread Mother Teresa’s message. We would also be interested in any other photos of Mother Teresa that you might have taken. Any information or detail about her is of great interest to us, much in the same way that the memories of their mother are precious to her children. Every photo, document or testimony forms an important piece in a mosaic in her rich life and the more pieces we put together the more complete the picture. We would be very grateful for your help in this and will abide by any conditions that you might have regarding our request. And here comes another special request. We would be delighted if you would be so kind (if and when your schedule permits it) to write for us a short testimony about your experience when you met Mother and took these photos. We would like details if possible: what were your impressions, and what was that interaction like and did she give you any message etc as we would like to keep this testimony of yours in our record. We do not use any other social media except email and so I would be so grateful if you could email me back as soon as possible with your reply. God bless you Sr. M. Callisita, MC Mother Teresa Center of the Missionaries of Charity www.motherteresa.org mtcadmin@motherteresa.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sr. Preseilla (talk • contribs) 08:29, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

From DE Wiki to Commons

Hi is possible transfer this file on Commons?

• https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:CasaliniDavid.png
• https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Derbi_Vamos_G_Originalzustand.jpg
• https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Derbi_Vamos_M.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 93.148.94.11 (talk) 07:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi,

sure. However, the fact that for the 2nd and 3rd image the claimed author-name and uploader-name are not identical might result in a request for a permission, which might not be possible to obtain as the uploader is inactive since 2009. --Túrelio (talk) 09:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The names might not be identical, but there is strong online evidence that they are the same person. In fact File:Yamaha neos mittopcase.jpg had been transfered back in 2008 and identified as such Agathoclea (talk) 11:02, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Ah, great. Then you should mention this as evidence, just in case. --Túrelio (talk) 11:12, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

The impressum at https://rollerchaos.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_44.html uses the same nick as email address. At a minimum that email address of the author of the pictures can be used to confirm the copyright status. Agathoclea (talk) 17:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Information boards in Innenräumen

Hallo Turelio, du hast vor einiger Zeit beanstandet, dass ich unter anderem die in Innenräumen des Ökologisch-Botanischen Gartens der Universität Bayreuth aufgenommenen Fotos von Information boards in Wikimedia Commons eingestellt hatte. Nachdem mir die Einrichtung keine Freigabe erteilt hatte, habe ich die betreffenden Dateien wieder entfernt. Jetzt musste ich aber feststellen, dass in Wikimedia Commons sehr viele in Innenräumen aufgenommene Foos von Information boards eingestellt sind, für die ebenfalls keine Freigabe vorliegt. So ist zum Beispiel eine ganze entsprechende Category:Information boards in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum vorhanden. Ich wäre dir sehr dankbar, wenn du dazu Stellung nehmen könntest. Gruß --Schubbay (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Translated: Hello Turelio, some time ago you complained that, among other things, I had posted the photos of information boards taken inside the Ecological-Botanical Garden of the University of Bayreuth in Wikimedia Commons. After the institution had not given me approval, I removed the files in question. But now I had to find out that in Wikimedia Commons there are a lot of foos from information boards that were taken indoors, for which there is also no release. For example, there is a whole corresponding Category:Information boards in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum. I would be very grateful if you could comment on this. Regards VScode fanboy (talk) 14:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

VScode fanboy, thanks for the translation, but I'm a native German speaker ;-) . --Túrelio (talk) 18:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio, darf ich dich nochmals um eine Antwort auf meine Anfrage bitten? --Schubbay (talk) 13:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio, leider ist meine Anfrage noch immer nicht beantwortet. Nimm doch bitte jetzt einmal Stellung. Vielen Dank! --Schubbay (talk) 13:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Schubbay,

es tut mir leid dass es mit meiner AW so lange gedauert hat. Auf einem so großen Projekt wie Commons treten natürlich immer wieder Inkonsistenzen auf, wie du sie jetzt beobachtet hast. Das liegt meist einfach daran, dass die Kontrolle der neu hochgeladenen Bilder (recent-upload patroling) aufgrund des Volumens nur recht oberflächlich und auch wohl nicht lückenlos erfolgt.

Konkret: was die Zulässigkeit von Infotafeln aus (Innenräumen von) deutsche Museen angeht, ist wesentlicher Faktor die Schöpfungshöhe des Abgebildeten, die letztlich die Grundvoraussetzung für einen urheberrechtlichen Schutz darstellt (keine Schöpfungshöhe = nicht schutzfähig). Deren Beurteilung ist aus meiner Sicht aber nicht so leicht. Bei dem willkürlich aus der von dir verlinkten Kategorie herausgegriffenen Foto File:2021 — Zweite Julireise Mateus2019 Batch (207).jpg finde ich, dass hier Schöpfungshöhe besteht, da der Text über die bloße Angabe des Gemäldes, auf das er sich bezieht, hinausgeht. Das gilt m.E. analog für das (ebenfalls willkürlich herausgegriffene) Foto File:Australischer Regenwald.jpg von dir.

Was tun? Ich könnte auf einige der Infotafel-Bilder aus "Category:Information boards in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum" einen Muster-LA stellen, um die Einschätzung der Schöpfungshöhe dieser Art von Bildern auf eine weniger subjetive Basis zu stellen. Wenn dieser LA positiv ausgeht (keine Schöpfungshöhe und Bilder können bleiben), könntest du beginnen, deine Tafelfotos hochzuladen. Alternativ könntest du ein durchschnittliches deiner Tafelfotos hochladen und ich stelle darauf den Muster-LA (unter Verweis auf die Nationalmuseums-Tafeln). --Túrelio (talk) 13:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio

Jetzt muss ich mich entschuldigen, dass meine Antwort so lange gedauert hat. Aber ich war im real life zu stark beschäftigt. Nun zum Sachverhalt. Bevor man einen LA stellt stellt, sollte man User:Mateus 2019, von dem die meisten der in der genannten Kategorie enthaltenen Fotos stammen, bitten zu versuchen, nachträglich eine Genehmigung des Urhebers der Info-Tafeln einzuholen, wie Du es mir seinerzeit auch vorgeschlagen hast. Würdest Du das bitte übernehmen? Vielen Dank. --Schubbay (talk) 16:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio.

nachdem schon wieder fast zwei Wochen vergangen sind, möchte ich dich nochmals an meine Bitte erinnern. Schubbay (talk) 14:03, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Siehe: User_talk:Mateus2019#Fotos_von_Museums-Infotafeln. --Túrelio (talk) 12:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Help for remove picture's old version

Good afternoon @Túrelio, I hope you'll well.

I'm writing you because some days ago I cross-wiki moved this picture (File:Papa centenario.jpg) from the Wikipedia in Italian. The original uploader (and holder) gave it a GNU Free Documentation License and a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, but there isn't permission for the picture of Pope John Paul II and there isn't also any evidence that the person who took it gave permission. After, I replaced that picture with another alvailable in Commons with a credit ok (File:Pope John Paul II smile.jpg — Gov.pl/CC Attribution 3.0 Poland) because I searched for ask the uploader if could confirm that he have authorisation form the original picture's owner but the last edition was in 2010 ([8]) and I think that it will be better modify the document for replace the picture with a free-equivalent to avoid future crops of the document for use the image, especially if it's really a copyvio. Is any possibility to remove the original from the picture's history to avoid another users could recover it and crop it for use? Or what is the best procedure for cases like this? I hope you can help me with this situation. Best regards and thanks.

Trouble?

Greetings: We have a newish volunteer who seems to have a problem when I pull images out of "no source, no license & no permission", mark them something like "This seems to be old enough to keep" and nominate them for deletion. He doesn't seem to wish to understand that this is a method to save the files and he gets rude to me about what he calls my lack of understanding of copyright and Commons. Recently he's started modifying his user page to include lists of negative interactions with me and other users. On one DN, someone commented that this user has trouble with en:wiki & and perhaps others. I would like to go on record that this situation now is creepy and unwelcome. I have no idea why he's picking at me, nor why he doesn't seem to understand that admins & bureaucrats (like me and Eugene Zelenko whom he also disrespects) work really hard keeping the place tidy and that there is no reason for personal attacks as part of the process. The situation is not fun and I would appreciate some help with it. Thank you. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ellin,

I'll write him tomorrow morning. --Túrelio (talk) 20:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

References

Favor?

I've been beating up on this person too much. She created an overly-promotional-sounding article en:Life House, saw her (English Wikipedia) contributions were mostly on that article, so I COI'ed her. She said correctly, that she has 100k contributions to the Italian Wiki, so I struck the COI. Now I see she's been adding images as her own work, though a cursory search doesn't show others.

• File:LH Little Havana - Terras 8.jpg large images with google search
• File:NEW_SoFi_Building_Facade_View.jpg large images with google search

I would copyvio them otherwise. Would you do me a favor and decide what to do about them? Cheers Adakiko (talk) 21:06, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, she has 100k contribs to WikiData, only 2.4k to :it. Anyway, reason enough to strongly assume AGF. However, the external hits for File:NEW SoFi Building Facade View.jpg are rather convincing; so, I've opened a DR. The situation with the other image is similar, but not identical, as the highest resolution found was 4000x2200, whereas she uploaded 5400x3000. --Túrelio (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. The Little Havana does have metadata while SoFi does not. Google reports Momondo has a 5400x3000 for Little Havana, but the links don't display that resolution. Little Havana is three story, everything around it appears two story, the photo is from above the rooftop, so, likely a drone. google map Thanks for your time! Cheers Adakiko (talk)

Verlage von Postkarten

Hallo Túrelio, du hast zweimal die Verlagskategorie von Postkartenverlagen verschoben.

• Category:Lederer & Popper, Prague nach Category:Lederer & Popper
• Category:Ángel Toldrá Viazo, Barcelona nach Category:Ángel Toldrá Viazo

Das ist mir gerade aufgefallen beim COM:WPPC bei der Liste Logos of postcard publishers. Bitte vorher genau schauen, ob die Kategorie irgendwo verlinkt ist und dann auch den Linkfix mit machen. Gibt es eine Regel, dass der Ortsname nicht in der Kategorie mit benannt werden darf? Wäre mir neu. Warum hast du das genau umgenannt? Bei einer Kat findest du ja auch eine Unterkategorie mit dem Stadtnamen, die hätte dann auch mit umbenannt werden sollen.

• Category:Postcards published by Lederer & Popper, Prague‎

Bei ersterer hab ich eine Cat-Weiterleitung eingebaut. Aber bevor ich weiter mache, wollte ich dich natürlich mal fragen, was deine Gründe waren. Beste Grüße --sk (talk) 11:33, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Hallo sk,

normalerweise mache ich das nicht von mir aus, sondern führe lediglich einen von anderen Benutzern bestellten Auftrag (der Adminrechte erfordert) aus. Deshalb ist es für mich auch kein Problem, auf Wunsch die Ausgangssituation wieder herzustellen. Im Fall von cat:Ángel Toldrá Viazo, Barcelona hatte User:Adamant1 die Kat. als badname markiert. Vielleicht kannst du ihn mal ansprechen, dass ihr euch einigt bzw. er ggf. deine Gründe versteht.

Wenn ich als Benutzer vor einer Kat-Bennennung stehe, schaue ich mir (statt eine Regelseite zu suchen, wenn es sie denn gibt) erstmal an wie es de facto gehandhabt wird. Bzgl. Verlage zeigt Category:Postcards by publisher dass es offenbar munter durcheinander geht. Allerdings scheinen die cats ohne Ort zu überwiegen. Rein von der Logik her würde ich sagen, wenn es gleichnamige, aber nicht identische Verlage an verschiedenen Orten gibt, sollte die cat auch den Ort enthalten. Dasselbe würde gelten, wenn es einen Verlag an verschiedenen Standorten gibt und deren Unterscheidung für die auf Commons vorhandenen Dateien tatsächlich relevant ist. --Túrelio (talk) 12:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Schau mal in Category:Postcard_publishers_by_name. Es geht dort wirklich wild durch einander. Unser Postkarten-Projekt läuft erst seit 2 Jahren, aber auf eine richtig Regel für die Namen der Kategorien wir uns noch nicht verständigt. IMHO ist der Name mit Ortsangabe besser, weil der vielfach auch auf den Karten mit drauf steht oder sich daraus seine Abkürzung ergibt. (Beispiel: MEB - Category:Max Blegel, Elberfeld). Zum anderen ist nicht immer klar wie die Unternehmen aussahen. Waren es Einmann-Betriebe oder Unternehmen mit mehreren Beschäftigten. Ok, ich klär das mit Adamant1. Danke für die Info. --sk (talk) 15:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Images from my own oil paintings

ALL THE IMAGES contributed under my username Fenous are from my own original oil paintings , as published in my book. I am in fact the Artist Raouf Oderuth. Please do not delete my contributions as they are my own creations. Thank you with much appreciation Raouf roderuth@aol.com Fenous (talk) 08:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi,

then why didn't you use the existing account User:Oderuth or isn't that yours? And what about User:123HSBC, is that also your account? Why three accounts? --Túrelio (talk) 08:26, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I didn’t think it mattered. I thought my passwords would be better protected Fenous (talk) 17:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Can’t you have different accounts? I find the guidelines confusing and misleading. I know other individuals operate under other several usernames Fenous (talk) 17:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, obviously you don't care much about your own copyright as an artist. Reproductions of Raouf Oderuth's works were uploaded by some User:Fenous and User:123HSBC, who claimed them as own work! It just doesn't make any sense. Of course, as an artist you can choose an artist-name/alias. However, it should be the same for online as for the real world. With your current approach, reusers will credit Oderuth's works to Oderuth, Fenous or 123HSBC, depending on which account you used for upload. And yes, one can have more than one account, provided this is openly declared, which is currently not the case for the mentioned 3 accounts.

With regard to "protected passwords", if you want to better secure your user-account against hacking, you might consider to activate the so-called 2-factor-authentification, which is pretty easy, if you use a smartphone. For details see: en:Help:Two-factor authentication.

IMO, the best way to proceed properly here on Commons, would be 1) to verify (Category:Verified accounts) your main-account User:Oderuth by identifying yourself to Commons:VRT, and 2) to upload images of your own artworks only by this account. As images of your artworks are found all over the web, you will still need to confirm (template: Commons:Volunteer Response Team#Email message template for release of rights to a file) the choosen free license to COM:VRT. --Túrelio (talk) 19:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, except that with a verified account, I believe that you don't need to confirm any individual licences, as long as you add the template with your verified account and the authorship or copyright ownership is clearly tied to your confirmed identity. –LPfi (talk) 06:46, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@LPfi, I also thought so, but was told otherwise not long ago. --Túrelio (talk) 07:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

There may be a difference between licensing your own works, and somebody being verified to be authorised to act on behalf of somebody, perhaps for a specific project, for a specific set of images, or for as long as they have a certain position. Anyway, this should be explained somewhere; it cannot be the case that somebody with a verified account uploads images trusting that verification, leaves Commons (or their position) and the files are then deleted because of lack of VRT permission for the individual files. What's the point of the verified account if it isn't trusted to act on behalf of the verified identity? –LPfi (talk) 09:09, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Deletions

Hello!

In september of last year I collected all TIFF, DjVU and PDF files that lacked a rendering and had dimensions 0x0 at User:Jonteemil/sandbox2 only to now find out that pretty much all have been deleted, by you. Did I or anyone else tag the files for deletion? Why were they deleted? There must have been a way with which they could've been repaired?Jonteemil (talk) 12:53, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi,

usually I perform speedies requested by other users; I hardly would search or tag them by myself. For example, File:CADAL06386408 意中人.djvu and File:NAJDA-185-0184 靖北録1.pdf had been tagged by User:Mitar as "File is corrupted" and then deleted by me. If you have a way to repair any of these files, I'll be glad the undelete them. --Túrelio (talk) 13:08, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I see. @Mitar: were they not repairable? See also Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2022-03#Files uploaded by Ederporto were files that weren't rendered still were undeleted. Maybe this is a bigger question, should files that don't render on the wikipage be deleted when they might render on the upload.wikimedia.org page?Jonteemil (talk) 13:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I tested all files before marking them for deletion and they were not processed correctly by Wikimedia software nor by any of DJVU viewers I tried (on Linux). Some files I was able to fix and for those I uploaded new versions. For some I found originals which worked. But sadly for some I was unable to fix them so I marked them for deletion. If you are able to fix them, that would be awesome of course. And please tell me later what you did to do so. Mitar (talk) 22:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Example of one I managed to fix File:NAJDA-273-0121 周易古今文全書 今文巻7.pdf. Also see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290462, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T301291 (and its duplicates). Mitar (talk) 22:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

deletion of football club logo

Hi. I just wanted to ask, why did you delete the logo of czech football club FC Viktoria Plzeň. For some reason, I couldn't add the only already existing svg identical logo from french Wikipedia to our czech site. I created new file on Wikipedia commons for that purpose and it worked perfectly. Please, tell me, why don't you give us the logo back? And if it isn't possible, couldn't you help us with putting the logo on the site?

Thank you for your attention. Rytíř Brtník z Brtníku (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rytíř Brtník z Brtníku,

the same logo, File:FCVP official logo.svg, had been uploaded first by another user in 2020 and been deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:FCVP official logo.svg. You probably didn't know that. But re-uploading a once deleted image is usually a straight way to re-deletion.

Now, this logo is sourced to https://www.fcviktoria.cz/eng/zobraz.asp?t=club-logo, where it is offered for download. However, being offered for download does not automatically mean that it is under a free license, which allows all the uses that are required per our policy COM:L, i.e. re-use, including commercial, and creating derivatives of it. Also, the source-site states © FC VIKTORIA Plzeň.

As the Czech Republic has freedom-of-panorama exception, the easiest way to obtain a legal reproduction of this logo would be to find the logo somewhere permanently installed on public ground and take a photography of it; see File:LogoHerzstiftung s6777.jpg for example. The safest, but likely not easiest way would be to ask the FC Viktoria Plzeň whether they would be willing to release the logo under a free license. --Túrelio (talk) 07:11, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your answer. However, you can also download the logo on czech version of the site, which, for whatever reason, contains more information about the usage of logo. https://fcviktoria.cz/ke-stazeni.asp It's written there, that it's free to download and use the logo. My question is - Can I use the svg format when there's only pdf and png formats to download, or am I completely wrong and still can't use any version of the logo? Rytíř Brtník z Brtníku (talk) 17:10, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Rytíř Brtník z Brtníku It is as mentioned by Túrelio. Victoria Plzeň provides logo to be downloaded, but does not specify whyt you can do with the logo. One think is download the logo and use it for personal purpose, the other think is to distribute it a provide it to others. So if you want to create svg out of their PNG, or just draw it by yourselv, still we need to know, undert which conditions they provide their logo and wether it is compatible with free licences which we use on Commons. The reason, why it is on French Wikipedia and not on Commons could be that French community allows certain licensing terms, the international Commons community doesnt allow. Juandev (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

file Ahmed Sayyad

Hi, you have deleted the file Ahmed Sayyad which I am the author and it is me who provided it as I am UNESCO staff. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SOZELY (talk • contribs) 10:27, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, please sign your comments and provide the precise filename of the affected image. --Túrelio (talk) 10:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

So, you are likely talking about File:Ahmed Sayyad.jpg, uploaded as "own work" on June 12, 2022. The same image was found prepublished at UNESCO-Twitter on July 29, 2021 without a author-credit, which suggest it may be a UNESCO-image. As you state to be "UNESCO staff", the copyright is probably with UNESCO. So, we need a formal permission from UNESCO to be send to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (ORTS). --Túrelio (talk) 10:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Urheberrecht vs. Copyright

Hallo Túrelio, ich erlaube mir mal, Dich anzuschreiben (der Einfachheit halber auf Deutsch), weil ich vermute, dass Du Dich mit den feinen Unterschieden zwischen Urheberrecht und Copyright auskennst. Denn ich habe Dich in der Vergangenheit - wo nötig - als zügigen und umsichtigen Löschenden von URV erlebt. Mein Anliegen:

Ich habe vor einigen Tagen auf dem VRT-Noticeboard eine Anfrage gestellt wg. eines Bildes, für das zwar ein VRT-Ticket vorliegt, dessen Hochladender aber ausdrücklich und ganz klar sagt, dass er nicht der Fotograf ist und bislang auch keine Genehmigung des Fotografen vorliegen hat. Da frage ich mich doch: Was um Himmels willen kann dann überhaupt in diesem Ticket bzw. in dem VRT-Schriftverkehr drinstehen?

Aus der Antwort, die ich auf meine Anfrage erhalten habe, kann ich nur schließen, dass der Antwortende vermutlich im angelsächsischen Rechtskreis eher zuhause ist und den Unterschied zwischen Copyright und Urheberrecht nicht gut kennt. Wir haben es hier immerhin mit einem Fotografen zu tun, der die Metadaten des Bildes geradezu gepflastert hat mit seinem Namen und seinen Rechtsansprüchen.

Einen ähnlichen, wenn auch nicht ganz so krassen Fall vermute ich hier. Ich habe da erstmal den Hochladenden angesprochen (auf seiner deutschsprachigen WP-Seite) und warte mal ab, ob er sich meldet.

Danke & Gruß, --217.239.2.67 12:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hallo 217.239.2.67,

also bei File:Portrait Elke Backes.jpg könntest du Ganimedes, der die OTRS-Bestätigung hinzugefügt hat, mal fragen, ob tatsächlich der Hochlader der Fotograf (oder Rechteinhaber) ist, weil sein Name ja im Autorfeld steht. Hier könnte eventuell vergessen worden sein, den Eintrag zu aktualisieren. Natürlich könnte der tatsächliche Urheber auch bewußt auf seine Namensnennung verzichtet haben. Das müsste dann aber in der Bestätigungsmail stehen.

Das gilt analog für File:VELLO 01.jpg. Auch dort gehört in das Autorfeld der Name des Fotografen, es sei denn er hätte in der Korrespondenz ausdrücklich darauf verzichtet. --Túrelio (talk) 12:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Túrelio, danke für Deine Antwort. Bei dem Bild von Elke Backes habe ich inzwischen die Fotografin herausgekriegt, es handelt sich um eine Fotografin namens Natascha Romboy. Danke für die Anregung, Ganimedes anzusprechen. Ich warte da erst nochmal ein paar Tage ab, ob der Hochladende auf seiner WP-Nutzerseite antwortet.

Bei dem Vello-Bild ist es ja allerdings alles noch viel schlimmer: Da gibt es bislang überhaupt keine Genehmigung des Fotografen. Das hat der Hochladende ja auf seiner deutschsprachigen WP-Seite selber ganz offen zugegeben. Insofern verstehe ich den VRT-Vorgang hier überhaupt nicht. --217.239.2.67 14:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Er hat aber angedeutet, dass der Geschäftsinhaber und der Fotograf sich kennen und dass das vielleicht auf dem "kleinen Dienstweg" gelaufen ist. Dennoch sollte bei OTRS natürlich darauf geachtet werden, dass die Genehmigung tatsächlich vom Fotografen kommt. --Túrelio (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hm. Den Hochladenden selber verstehe ich so, dass da bislang gar nichts gelaufen ist und er beim Fotografen überhaupt erstmal anfragen muss.

Ganz persönlich und glaskugelig glaube ich nicht daran, dass er diese Genehmigung überhaupt kriegen wird. Freundschaft hin oder her, ein Fotograf, der so nachdrücklich seinen Namen in die Exifdaten setzt und der immerhin seine Brötchen mit Produktfotografie verdient, der wird doch seine Bilder nicht unter CC-Lizenz veröffentlichen.

Darf ich mal nachfragen, ob Du die VRT-Kommunikation einsehen kannst? Was ist denn da überhaupt gelaufen? Der Hochladende weiß ja offenbar von nichts. Aber wo kommt denn dann die Genehmigung her?

Ich will Dich auch jetzt nicht den gesamten Rest-Abend mit diesem einen Bild beschäftigen. Aber mir sind derartige Fälle in letzter Zeit immer wieder auf Commons begegnet - nicht so krass wie dieser hier, aber doch schon so, dass ich mich immer wieder gefragt habe: Wo bitte kommt denn diese VRT-Genehmigung her? Ich bin da schon häufiger irritiert gewesen, wie wenig die Rechte der Urheber von manchen Zuständigen ernstgenommen werden. Zum Teil erkläre ich es mir, wie gesagt, durch das Missverständnis Copyright vs. Urheberrecht, aber wenigstens nach Hinweis müsste das doch ernstgenommen werden. --217.239.2.67 19:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Da ich nicht zur ORTS/VRTS-Benutzergruppe gehöre, habe ich keinerlei Einblick in die Kommunikation. D.h., wenn ich etwas wissen bzw. überprüfen lassen will, muss ich auch den normalen Weg über das ORTS-Board gehen. Die von der Community vergebenen Administrator-Rechte mögen praktisch zwar "mächtiger" erscheinen, beschränken sich aber letztlich doch auf die eigene Plattform. Die Rechte bzw. Aktivität der ORTSler betrifft dagegen direkt das reale (Urheber)Recht. Zudem sind die ORTSler durch eine Vertraulichkeitsverpflichtung gegenüber der WMF gebunden, was bei Admins, zumindest bislang, nicht der Fall ist.

Hab bei der Bewertung tatsächlicher oder anscheinender Ungereimheiten um eine ORTS/VRTS-Genehmigung immer im Hinterkopf, dass die ORTSler ja auch (unbezahlte) Freiwillige sind und wohl eher selten einen Abschluss in Rechtswissenschaften haben. Dennoch ist es natürlich gut, dass du auffallenden Ungereimheiten nachgehst. --Túrelio (talk) 07:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

About File:사쿠라 5.jpg

Hello. I object to the deletion of that file. I sent a DM to the original author's Twitter account, but they said it was the same person as the uploader. So, Please recover this file. Thank you. --양념파닭 (talk) 10:38, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi,

the file was uploaded not by you, but by User:Kaming309. It was found prepublished on Twitter. Now, we don't know whether User:Kaming309 is Twitter-user Ka Ming. Anyway, in such a case a valid permission by the photographer or the rightsholder needs to be send to VRTS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org). --Túrelio (talk) 10:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Twitter DM revealed that they are the same person. In addition, the part about VRTS you mentioned should be notified to the user concerned. 양념파닭 (talk) 12:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Those images were uploaded by the original author. I've spoken to them about it as I was the one who asked they upload the images. Please restore them, so I can have them confirm they uploaded it. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

I've instructed the uploader, User_talk:Kaming309#File:사쿠라_5.jpg, to arrange for a permit to be submitted. Thereafter, the file(s) can be restored. --Túrelio (talk) 08:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

[round|triangular] roundabout signs

Saluton, du hast die Kategorien Category:Triangular roundabout signs und Category:Round roundabout signs schnellgelöscht, mit der Begründung C2 (unuseful empty category). Ich finde, dass hier eine kurze Begründung für das unuseful nicht schlecht wäre, denn die Kategorien waren nur deshalb leer, weil Akele201 alle Medien kommentarlos aus diesen Kategorien entfernt hat. Akele201 hat, nebenbei, Anfang Juni eine Vandalismuswarnung auf die Diskussionsseite bekommen.

Die beiden Kategorien sind sicherlich nicht lebenswichtig, aber es gibt nun mal zum Beispiel in Deutschland den Unterschied zwischen dem runden Vorschrifts- und dem dreieckigen Hinweisschild. -- Renardo la vulpo (talk) 12:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Renardo,

der zitierte Text ist automatisiert an die C2-Begründung leere Kat." geknüpft. D.h., wenn man im Auswahlmenü C2 wählt, setzt das Commons-Skript diesen Text. Ich bin über das "unuseful" auch nicht so glücklich.

Die vorsätzliche Leerung der Kat. ist mir nicht aufgefallen. Wenn du die beiden Kategorien wieder befüllen willst, stelle ich sie gerne wieder her. --Túrelio (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

@Túrelio, mir war die Sache aufgefallen, weil eines der betroffenen Bilder von mir ist. Wenn du die Löschung rückgängig machst, befülle ich die Kategorien wieder, soweit ich das anhand der Beitragsliste von Akele201 tun kann. Hoffentlich akzeptiert sie/er es; die Warnung zeigt ja, dass es da schon mal ein Problem gegeben hat. Danke –– Renardo la vulpo (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

@Renardo la vulpo: ich habe die beiden cats jetzt wieder hergestellt. Es wäre aber sicher nicht schlecht, wenn du Akele201 informierst, dass bzw. warum du das für sinnvoll hältst, und dass ich sie wieder entlöscht habe. --Túrelio (talk) 10:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Sound Logo

Hello,

I am messaging you because a contest for a sound logo for Wikimedia is being developed and your opinion as a Wikimedia Commons admin is appreciated. My team would like to know if it is possible for the top finalist sound logos in the contest to have attribution temporarily hidden from public view until all the votes are final? The idea is to let the public judge the sound logo contestants based on the merit of the logo, not the person or people who made it. Again, any feedback is appreciated.

Thank you,

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 18:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hi! Why are you reverting my editions for speed deletion if I am the author? I am erasing personal information. Thank you! FML ^hello 20:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry. I already understand what happened. I added my requests here: Commons:Deletion requests/Some private old photos sent by User:FML. --FML ^hello 20:47, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@FML: , you should at first try to remove/replace the uses of these images on other projects, as this is an obstacle for deletion. --Túrelio (talk) 08:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Vending machines sg again

Hi Túrelio, last year I noted some copyrighted images related to one you had already deleted. I have found another sockpuppet here. Among the presumably stolen images they uploaded was another vending machine image, albeit with one letter different in the file name. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:48, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Deleting of Category:FCE RALn 64 - Interior

Hello!

I am the user who created the category "FCE RALn 64 - Interior", and I was wondering why you deleted it.

I created this category to group photos of the interiors of raln 64 FCE trains (currently there is only one, this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L%27interno_di_una_delle_RALn_64.jpg), exactly as for the Category:FCE ADe 11–20 - Interior (Main Category is Category:FCE ADe 11–20).

I read that the category was deleted because the name was incorrect, as well as duplicated ((incorrectly named) duplicate). However, to create the category in question, I based myself on this: Category:FCE ADe 11–20 - Interior, also, before I created it, the category in question did not exist.

So I ask if I can recreate the category FCE RALn 64 - Interior, to put inside all the relevant photos (for now there is only this).

Thank you for your attention! VincentLR (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi VincentLR,

the cat had been tagged by User:Arbalete as {{Bad name|Category:FCE RALn 64}} and was empty. That was the reason for its deletion. The mother-category Category:FCE RALn 64 currently has only 10 images. The currently deleted cat would carry only File:L'interno di una delle RALn 64.jpg. Usually, categories shall contain more than 1 item. But, if you think there is a compelling reason to have this category now, you can recreate it. --Túrelio (talk) 18:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Túrelio!

Tanks for your answer!

The category in question was empty, because before the user Arbalete reported it for the deleting, hes removed the only file contained in it, tah is, the below photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L%27interno_di_una_delle_RALn_64.jpg

This user (Arbalete), often interferes negatively with other members of wikipedia, in fact, he is currently blocked on it.Wikipedia.

I got to talk to other members of wikipedia, and they also spoke badly of Arbalete. VincentLR (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Ist das das gleiche Bild?

Moin!
Du hast das Bild hier letzten Monat wegen URV gelöscht. Ist das Bild hier, hochgeladen von einer augenscheinlichen Socke des anderen Hochladers, eventuell das gleiche Bild? Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 10:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Sänger,

nein, gleiche Person, aber ganz anderes Foto. Allerdings legen die Metadaten nahe, dass es von Instagram stammen könnte. Auf ihrem Konto habe ich aber nicht gefunden. --Túrelio (talk) 10:31, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

hier ist das Bild in der Collage TV / Event - Moderation: zu sehen. Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 12:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Danke. Hab nun einen LA gestallt. --Túrelio (talk) 12:03, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

What re u doing?

Heyy what is ur problem? Pehlivanmeydani (talk) 13:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Lots of website took photo from Wikipedia u have shown reason for deleting, it is nonsence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pehlivanmeydani (talk • contribs) 13:19, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikimedia Pictures removal

Dear Túrelio, please stop removing our pictures from Wikimedia, we are Primo Toys, the Copyright owners of the picture, and we claimed so on Wikimedia after uploading them. Thank you and have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.163.113.100 (talk) 13:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, please comment only when logged-in. Otherwise I don't know what files you are talking about. --Túrelio (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it's Yinglao, you deleted 2 pictures I uploaded yesterday on Wikimedia, but I am the author of the pictures and they have been released on CC 4.0. I uploaded them again, I would appreciate if you do not delete them again, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yinglao (talk • contribs)

Hi Yinglao, re-uploading deleted images shouldn't be done. Anyway, let's try to solve the problem:

File:Primo toys founders.jpg: as this image was found prepublished already in 2017[9] and as you sourced it to a copyrighted company-website, a formal permission needs to be send by the true photographer or rightsholder to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (ORTS).

File:Cubetto.webp: as this image was found prepublished already in 2016[10] and as you sourced it to a copyrighted company-website, a formal permission needs to be send by the true photographer or rightsholder, as described above. --Túrelio (talk) 14:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Túrelio, thanks for your help. I just sent an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org following the suggested template. Hopefully this should resolve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yinglao (talk • contribs) 14:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Túrelio, I receuved a positive response from the permissions team, the images are now licensed, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yinglao (talk • contribs) 15:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

You are welcome. --Túrelio (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Offene Punkte Heribert

Hallo Túrelio,

ich kümmere mich drum noch diese Woche und melde mich.

Gruß, Heribert3 (talk) 12:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Bitte um Rat

Hallo Túrelio,

Ich möchte dich mal um Rat fragen, ob du es für sinnvoll hältst, dass ich mich für eine Admin-Kandidatur entscheiden sollte.

Viele Grüße --Uli Elch (talk) 10:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Uli,

ich melde mich morgen dazu. --Túrelio (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

File:Tanzverbot.jpg

Hi Túrelio, du hast letzten Monat diese Datei von mir schnellgelöscht. Kannst du mir bitte den Link zum YouTube-Video schicken, aus dem mein Screenshot stammt? Timk70 (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, das war aus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3GgKJLOfH0. Ich habe es gerade nochmal geprüft; da gab es keine CC-Lizenz. Anscheinend hält dieser Youtuber das unterschiedlich, mal mit mal ohne--Túrelio (talk) 12:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Danke. Ich bin mir sicher, dass dieses Video zum Zeitpunkt des Hochladens eine CC-Lizenz hatte, jetzt aber angeblich nicht mehr. Der Youtuber hat die Lizenz also in der Zwischenzeit geändert. Wie geht man hier mit solchen Fällen um? --Timk70 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Mit der Wayback Machine lässt sich das noch belegen. --Timk70 (talk) 00:07, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Habs nun wiederhergestellt. --Túrelio (talk) 13:51, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

If you delete my file one more time

I am going to stab myself in the stomach. Niyibby (talk) 05:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Deletion for copyright violation appeal

Túrelio, I am a novice Wikipedia poster and inadvertently posted a File:1850 Irish Evictions memorial on Fife Coastal Path at Carlin Knowes quarry.jpg which was from my Flickr account and had been saved using the wrong copyright tag. You deleted it and after this I changed the Flickr properties to Public Domain Dedication (CCO) and tried to have the file undeleted by typing the following into the search box:  

"Special: Undelete/< File:1850 Irish Evictions memorial on Fife Coastal Path at Carlin Knowes quarry.jpg >"

This didn’t have any affect. Can you help an old man (77+) who isn’t too hot on internet stuff get his photo/article reinstated?

Thanks in anticipation. Petitioner~~~~~ Petitioner (talk) 06:19, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Petitioner: I've restored the image. I'm 66 :-). --Túrelio (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for restoring. Petitioner (talk) 22:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Balcons decorats amb teles pel Corpus a València 03.jpg‎

Thank you for your help. We had a Wiki Takes and uploaded many hundreds of photos. In theory uploading the same file twice is impossible but it seems it has happened. My wife told me but we couldn't find any of the duplicated files; we think there are a few (not many) more. Sorry for the inconvinience. B25es (talk) 06:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

You are welcome. --Túrelio (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)