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RG72

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Good day! I received a message from you that I have repeatedly violated the project rules by uploading images protected by copyright. Indeed, I have repeatedly encountered the deletion of files I have uploaded and often this was very strange. I tried to explain my position, referring not to ridiculous formulations like "this can be found on the Internet", but to the position of leading international media outlets that use similar images and the largest law firms that work for them do not see any problems in this in the field of copyright [1]. However, the Wikimedia Commons continues to play a strange game of "copywriter purism" that is clearly devoid of legal sense. The colored background of the stage, memorial plaques (!), and even fire hydrants with smiles painted on them are now subject to deletion. I no longer upload photos of monuments, although the Russian court has long since confirmed that publishing such photos does not violate copyright, and I recalled this during one of the discussions But deleting room plans, memorial plaques, tombstones, and icons (!) is simply madness from a legal point of view. Okay, I can choose not to upload these images, but I want to point out that this is just a game that has nothing to do with the legal purity of the project. RG72 (talk) 06:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RG72: My position coincides with the one expressed here. As a matter of policy, Commons not only follows US and Russian copyright law and court precedents (and the copyright laws and court precedents of all the other countries), but also tries to protect reusers by protecting the rights of the copyright holders in source countries, whether or not the courts there choose to do so, and whether or not we are legally required to do so (we could host them legally as Fair Use, but we choose not to), so we don't allow certain works here if using them in Russia or other countries could have negative repercussions for our reusers. I imagine you don't want to get tossed into a Siberian gulag by the KGB for reusing a photo that includes some building or statue in Russia or some territory claimed by Russia (whether or not your lawyers eventually win your court case posthumously). See COM:RUSSIA for details on what we do allow. We also have some extra tagging for certain sensitive matter that certain language projects like the ones that use the German language don't want used on their projects; the Russian language projects could request similar treatment.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now I just don't understand anything. The KGB was liquidated in 1991, the GULAG in 1959, and I have lived since birth in the Siberian city of Tyumen, which is much more comfortable and safe than many European cities, so I could fear illegal imprisonment in one of the American prisons (for example, in Guantanamo), prosecution for political or religious views (as in the countries of Eastern Europe) or terrorism, which has already claimed hundreds of Ukrainian journalists and oppositionists. But what does all this have to do with memorial plaques, tombstones and icons? How can the publication of an image of an Orthodox icon - a canonical image approved by the church as the norm - send someone to a mythical GULAG or a real American or European prison? RG72 (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RG72: Ok, that was a hypothetical. But according to movies and TV I have seen in America, people have been oppressed by the KGB and disappeared or sent to die in GULAGs or Siberian prisons in the past (I understand Siberia can be very cold relative to other places in Russia). If you can get FOP for artwork including statues accepted into Russian law retroactively, that would be great! Until then, we can't accept de facto Russian FOP for artwork including statues here on Commons. I would like FOP for statues in the US, too, but the Big Copyright lobby in Washington is still too strong for that (but thankfully not strong enough to protect Steamboat Willie for Disney), so people in the US still get arrested or sued for copyright infringement of statues in the US (see Category:Korean War Veterans Memorial for reference to recent cases involving the statues at the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington). I stand with the people of all countries against authoritarian bullies like Trump, Putin, Assad, Hitler, Khomeini, and Bin Laden.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 08:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Siberia for four centuries was a penal servitude and exile, I myself adhered to this theme as a historian, my ancestor at the beginning of the line came to Siberia in shackles, my father was born in exile. All this was, but it remained in the past and today Siberia is one of the most comfortable places in Russia. In my city, the apple trees and tulips have already bloomed, yesterday I saw that roses were already planted in the flower beds. In summer, the temperature rarely drops below 20-25 degrees Celsius and people walk the streets until the morning, fortunately, the crime rate in Tyumen is 7 times lower than in Moscow - one of the safest cities in the world. I was engaged in publishing books and advertising, and I know that copyright protection issues are really important, although in my opinion sometimes it turns into abuse. I just want to draw attention to the fact that in our project, "copywriter purism" has already crossed all boundaries and we ourselves are depriving the project of valuable data in order to protect something that clearly does not need protection - such as icons, tombstones, memorial plaques or chevrons of private military companies. The largest international companies use these images, and we are afraid to do so. Why? RG72 (talk) 08:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RG72: COM:VP is a good place to ask that.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there.

Please outline all my entries which seem to have some problematic features of copy-vio! I may share some insight. Thank you! Just do it from here. Muddyb (talk) 19:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See most of the file redlinks on your user talk page.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Asking help from User:Timmy96 for the third time

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User:Jeff G., please, I need your help of trying to redirect the following two pictures. I tried to move the pictures but failed several times. That’s why I am asking you.

Timmy96 (talk) 08:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Timmy96: I did my part, please wait for CommonsDelinker to finish.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:46, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It has been done and thank you for your help, Jeff. Timmy96 (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Timmy96: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2 questions

  1. If I get blocked for a copyright violation, would the block be for a fixed amount of time, or indefinite?
  2. Would this block affect how I can use other Wikimedia projects?

Thegoofhere (talk) 21:36, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thegoofhere: 1: that depends on the blocking Admin; first block is usually short and then escalates. 2: no.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks bruv Thegoofhere (talk) 21:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, but be aware that any block may color the perceptions of those on other projects.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:56, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AN/U

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Hi @Jeff G., I hope you’re doing well.

Yesterday, you reported me unexpectedly, and I find that quite unkind. I would appreciate an explanation. Regards Riad Salih (talk) 15:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Riad Salih: In this edit 10:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC), you were given a final warning to stop uploading copyright violations. You continued to do so with File:Portail cities of Algeria icon.svg 00:12, 6 May 2025 (UTC). The future of File:Laghouat (portrait d'une jeune fille) - Philippe Joudiou - btv1b53160630v - Retouched.jpg, uploaded 24-25 May 2025, is also under discussion; with a named author who has only been dead for 17 years, how is that file public domain in France? What did you expect would happen when you uploaded these files?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear @Jeff G.
This is the second time you're making completely false claims about me, the first being a warning months ago, and now this completely unfounded report. I’d like to know how this report came about, especially since we rarely interact. Is my talk page on your watchlist or something? I’d appreciate some clarification.
Frankly, the claims you're making are so inaccurate that I'm not sure how to respond. I kindly ask that you first verify the file File:Laghouat (portrait d'une jeune fille) - Philippe Joudiou - btv1b53160630v - Retouched.jpg along with the related uploads. Who was the original uploader of these files?
I have no comment regarding the deletion of the files you mentioned. I was the one who originally named them for deletion myself, as I later uploaded improved versions, either due to poor quality (bad lighting, poor shots) or because the earlier files had incorrect extensions (e.g., .svg instead of .png). The file deletion logs are still available, and you can verify them one by one, I have no issue with that.
I'm trying to stay reasonable and patient here, please take the time to check everything, then let's talk. Riad Salih (talk) 19:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, your user talk page is on my watchlist. Per this log, you uploaded File:Mosquée de Terny Beni Hdiel (Tlemcen).jpg originally 20:45, 26 July 2023 (UTC), then overwrote it 21:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC) and 22:16, 25 December 2024 (UTC). Krd then deleted it 05:28, 3 January 2025 (UTC) for having "No license since 26 December 2024". How can you dispute these facts? You were the original uploader of retouched photo File:Laghouat (portrait d'une jeune fille) - Philippe Joudiou - btv1b53160630v - Retouched.jpg, while it was Gzen92Bot that uploaded the original file you retouched. You are responsible for your uploads.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 19:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G. File:Mosquée de Terny Beni Hdiel (Tlemcen).jpg was originally uploaded to my Flickr account, and I later transferred it to Wikimedia Commons if I still remember. Its 100% my picture part of User:Riad Salih/Minarets. I nominated it for deletion because I have since uploaded a better version: File:Mosquée Khalid ibn al-Walid, Terny Beni Hdiel, Tlemcen.jpg.
I believe you're making completely unfounded accusations, and with all due respect, and I truly mean that. I prefer not to continue this discussion further. You’ve been here longer than I have, and I respect that. But if we continue, I'm sure it will only lead to you owing me an apology. Have a nice day. Riad Salih (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

copyvios

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Hi. Would you like to say what is about - User talk:Shakko#Нарушение авторских прав]? For last 18 years I've uploaded 33 thousand files. Please be more specific in your warnings. Such unfounded warnings seem extremely impolite. Maybe you're talking about files from Category:Overcoming (2012 exhibition, Museum of modern history)? When I uploaded the photos of this exhibition 13 years ago, they were marked by the museum as copyleft and without any indication of the authors. They were put up for deletion only after the specific authors of some of the drawings were identified and their years of life were clarified. Do you have any other complaints? --Shakko (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Shakko: Yes, the ones I saw were from Category:Overcoming (2012 exhibition, Museum of modern history). I had warned you 21:07, 20 March 2025 (UTC) (two months ago) after finding that File:Facial Chronicle - b.03, p.457 - Ships of king Jehoshaphat.jpg did not have a license.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 19:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please be more careful if you are going to install this template. It looks crude and its text is not suitable for a warning about files uploaded 13 years ago, an eternity. Its wording suggests that it is about fresh uploads. As for the File:Facial Chronicle - b.03, p.457 - Ships of king Jehoshaphat.jpg, it is a scan of a 16th century document, which is written there in plain text. And losing the PD template when uploading it is a simple typo, which the bots always warn about within an hour, it is even strange that you wasted time on such a trifle. --Shakko (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

in case you are not following the discussion

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Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with "https://nationalanthems.info/" Cinaroot (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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