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File:Sonakshi at the press conference of Bullett Raja.jpg[edit]
Apparently this press conference was not a Bollywood Hungama party/event. Or else why does this image exist in larger size, better quality, and without the Bollywood Hungama watermark at indiawest.com? (Page on which the image is linked: [1]) In my opinion {{Cc-by-3.0-BollywoodHungama}} is not applicable to this image. Lupo 22:39, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Somehow some users think that BH must post images with full resolution on their site for wikipedia. Also users think photographers can't transfer copyrights to more than one website. Based on this irrationality, many images are deleted. Such attitude is damaging project and forcing users to leave project. Why would users waste time to contribute to project if images are deleted on irrational suspicions? Abhi (talk) 09:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think my question was "irrational" at all. If an image is licensed to several sites (it's not a copyright transfer: indeed an author can transfer the copyrights only once because after the transfer, he doesn't own them anymore... but that's off-topic), then it is not a Bollywood Hungama owned image, and the license tag doesn't apply. The tag explicitly applies only to photos made by Bollywood Hungama photographers made at Bollywood Hungama parties/events. This image from a press conference does not appear to fulfill these criteria. Lupo 09:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- I partially agree with you that this press conference probably not a Bollywood Hungama party/event. But if you look into this category obviously you'll find plenty of images like this one. My question is do you agree to open a DR for all of them? ~ Nahid Talk 14:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I had no intention of doing that, but probably one should go through this category with a fine-toothed comb. I don't know what exactly this template applies to... it says it applied to "Only photographs used by this site from Bollywood Hungama parties/events that are exclusively created by their own photographers" and then goes on to give a non-exhaustive list of stuff not covered by the template. I do notice that for instance the other user who commented here, Abhi, uploads images from Bollywood Hungama that have source URLs like http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/more/photos/view/stills/parties-and-events/... That seems to be OK, though I also notice that Bollywood Hungama does not specify who took the photograph, and whether that photographer was one of "their own photographers". So how are we to know, especially if the source URL does not include "parties-and-events"?? What kinds of other images from that site might or might not be OK to use is a bit unclear to me. Lupo 14:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- When entering this url you can see "photos" "wallpapers" "parties and events" and "cover" tabs in the middle. According to Ticket:2008030310010794 we can not use "photos" "wallpapers" and "cover" but "parties and events"; yes we can and i think it solve the part one (Only photographs used by this site from Bollywood Hungama parties/events). Now IMO, water marked images are created by their own photographers because there is no way understanding of their own pictures without this approach since there is no comment like 'this image is created by us or not'. I looked into the ticket, one part of the ticket indicates that, "we are allowed to use images from events, such as premieres, award function etc, images from films on the sets and press meetings, and not screen-caps or photos copyrighted by other sites." Regards! ~ Nahid Talk 17:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I dunno. Another site credits the image to Viral Bhayani, who seems to be a freelancer.[2] Lupo 18:17, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- When entering this url you can see "photos" "wallpapers" "parties and events" and "cover" tabs in the middle. According to Ticket:2008030310010794 we can not use "photos" "wallpapers" and "cover" but "parties and events"; yes we can and i think it solve the part one (Only photographs used by this site from Bollywood Hungama parties/events). Now IMO, water marked images are created by their own photographers because there is no way understanding of their own pictures without this approach since there is no comment like 'this image is created by us or not'. I looked into the ticket, one part of the ticket indicates that, "we are allowed to use images from events, such as premieres, award function etc, images from films on the sets and press meetings, and not screen-caps or photos copyrighted by other sites." Regards! ~ Nahid Talk 17:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I had no intention of doing that, but probably one should go through this category with a fine-toothed comb. I don't know what exactly this template applies to... it says it applied to "Only photographs used by this site from Bollywood Hungama parties/events that are exclusively created by their own photographers" and then goes on to give a non-exhaustive list of stuff not covered by the template. I do notice that for instance the other user who commented here, Abhi, uploads images from Bollywood Hungama that have source URLs like http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/more/photos/view/stills/parties-and-events/... That seems to be OK, though I also notice that Bollywood Hungama does not specify who took the photograph, and whether that photographer was one of "their own photographers". So how are we to know, especially if the source URL does not include "parties-and-events"?? What kinds of other images from that site might or might not be OK to use is a bit unclear to me. Lupo 14:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I partially agree with you that this press conference probably not a Bollywood Hungama party/event. But if you look into this category obviously you'll find plenty of images like this one. My question is do you agree to open a DR for all of them? ~ Nahid Talk 14:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think my question was "irrational" at all. If an image is licensed to several sites (it's not a copyright transfer: indeed an author can transfer the copyrights only once because after the transfer, he doesn't own them anymore... but that's off-topic), then it is not a Bollywood Hungama owned image, and the license tag doesn't apply. The tag explicitly applies only to photos made by Bollywood Hungama photographers made at Bollywood Hungama parties/events. This image from a press conference does not appear to fulfill these criteria. Lupo 09:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
