User talk:Chris j wood

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I'm almost tempted to template this one :). Working on cats on Commons you may care to look at my preferences -> gadgets -> Hotcat. Works well and makes it quick & easy. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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Uhmmmm... you're right :-) Problem solved, thanks for the help ;-) If you have other problems like that, feel free to report them to me :-) Thanks again! --Filnik^{\b[Rr]ock\b!?} 18:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

FI

Because of your uploads, I have created the page Fry's Island. Thanks for your image contributions! Ceranthor 16:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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Old debate?

Hello, would you say a word in this debate, please? Category talk:Train stations in Switzerland Thank you.-- Gürbetaler (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Geograph files

Hi, I noticed you've nominated a number of Geograph images for deletion - as you had already uploaded a superior version of same image to Commons directly.

Duplicate files should be marked for speedy deletion with {{duplicate|Better file}}. Easiest thing would be if you can just provide a list of the files, then I can get that sorted.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

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My error in editing file - now fixed -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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Steve Morgan (talk) 18:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding File:TPL folibus.jpg and File:TPL tram.jpg, in response to your message on my talk page:

As I see it, your mistake was accepting the claim by the original uploader ("ToBeDaniel") that he was the author of those photos. You say that the files were "appropriately licensed", but I say: No, I do not believe they were appropriately licensed, because I do not believe that ToBeDaniel was actually their author and, in that case, he does not have the legal right to place the photos in the public domain. The Lugano tram system closed in 1959, which I would imagine is before ToBeDaniel was even born, which would mean it is impossible for him to be the author of that tram photo, and that he made a false claim of authorship (or failed to understand what "author" means, for photos uploaded to Wikimedia sites). I tried to place the notice on his talk page, but it didn't function there, probably because it was a Wikipedia user page, not a Commons user page, but I've checked again now, and I found he does have Commons account (even though that is not where he uploaded these two Lugano photos), so I've now placed the notification template there. Anyway, it really doesn't matter whether you followed the proper Wikipedia/Commons process. My tagging/notification was really about the files, not about you. I believe the files are not legally licensed and should be deleted unless either the uploader or you can provide convincing evidence that either (1) he really was the photographer (author) or (2) that the true photographer released the images into the public domain. Steve Morgan (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

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I merge your comments of various image into Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Casinò di Campione. :) Raoli ✉ (talk) 16:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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File:Territet-Glion 04.JPG commentary

I saw your commentary to the photo of a funicular in Glion. It would have been better to put it on the discussion page. I don't know if you have been to Glion, if yes, the picture shows the disused railway coming from Territet going to (?). Traumrune (talk) 21:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I didn't make a commentary to the photo. I made an edit comment explaining why I'd removed Category:Funiculars in Switzerland from the image. Basically because the image is not of a funicular. This is a clear case of an error in categorisation which I corrected as best I could. I see no reason to take such a correction to a discussion page.

No, I have never been to Glion and I do not know what this image is actually of, although I do have a suspicion. As I explicitly pointed out in my comment, this is why I have not updated the text or categories to say what the photo is of.

With regard to this being a disused line, well it might be. But the state of the rails suggests otherwise, and none of my reference books make any reference to there being a disused line in either Territet or Glion. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, next time I go to that part of Switzerland I will make inquiries - if I don't forget ;). I had hoped you know Montreux. Traumrune (talk) 17:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Cable cars

This is also a cable car. Please read this article: Cable car in English wikipedia and look at the pictures. And look also at the pictures in Category:Cable cars. --Enfo (talk) 23:54, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

removed out of context reply; hadn't spotted your other change when I replied

I see that you reverted my removal of Category:Cable cars from the Category:Telefèric del Port cabin which I had created the day before. I did this because the text for Category:Cable cars says Cable cars are rail vehicles that .... I agree that the Cable car article in Wikipedia seems to disagree with that. But this is Commons, not Wikipedia. And categorisation needs more precision than WP articles, because you cannot explain in text. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:23, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I categorized according to the images I saw inside the category (go to category Cable cars and look which images are there), because I'm not a native English speaker, I just studied the language. Because I don't know the real use of terms, I searched the more appropriate category, but if it doesn't match, no problem in suppressing it. But now "cable cars" is also a subcategory included in "cableways"... --Enfo (talk) 12:10, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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Categorization

Hi, thank you for categorizing the Zurich tram photos. May I suggest that you use HotCat to do that? I think this is easier both for you, and for me because I can then see in the edit summary what you changed (I have all my uploads on my watchlist). Again, thanks for your work. darkweasel94 16:16, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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Max-Frisch Platz / Zürich Oerlikon railway station

Ich vermute das du manchmal in Zürich bist / I think sometimes you are in Zürich.

Also you look as though you understand English as happily as German which is easier for me. And you take good pictures.

Is there any chance that you might get a chance to upload a picture of Max-Frisch Platz that I can add to a translation I've been working on on .... the Great Man aka the Grumpy old Genius? It is a new Platz that I think they plan to "open" behind a major railway station in ZH (but not the Hbf) in 2015, so maybe now it is still a building site. But there might still be a good picture or two to be had.

Well, it's a long shot but sometimes long shots work out. Thanks for thinking about it.

Here's a five year old newspaper article in case your curiosity has been triggered:

http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/startseite/eingangstor-zu-neu-oerlikon-1.4138870

Regards Charles01 (talk) 14:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Ford categories

I'm slightly concerned about these categories: Is there any evidence the fords are given names? For example Category:Luton Ford implies the ford is actually named "Luton Ford". If it is not named, a descriptive category name should be used - which says it is a ford in Luton, not that it is Luton Ford.--Nilfanion (talk) 17:19, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

That is a good point. Mostly what I'm doing is trying to build a category structure. When I started, there were umpty-thousand photographs in Category:Fords in England, which made that category close to useless. In phase 1, I've moved them into Fords in CountyName categories, but that still leaves some pretty unwieldy categories. So phase 2 is to create categories for individual fords, where we have more than one photo for that ford (although I've also strayed into uploading newer images from Geograph if I thought they added something). I confess to not worrying too much about the name I gave the ford; usually one of the photos would quote a name that seemed sensible so I'd use that. In this case I suspect I read more into a photo description than I perhaps should.

Are you suggesting that Ford at Luton, Devon would be a better name?. My only problem with that is that you end up with a lot of categories starting Ford. I know I can deal with that with a pipe syntax, but that seems less elegant. And I tend to regard naming on Commons as a much less important issue than it is on Wikipedia. However if the consensus is that the descriptive names are better, I'm more than happy to go that way. -- Chris j wood (talk) 18:19, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

I totally understand your main point there, the Commons category structure is often very incomplete. Particularly when the category is a high-level one that the Geograph upload got placed in like Category:Roads in England.

I agree with Commons naming being lower concern than WP, but if there isn't a name actually in use we shouldn't invent one. My gut feeling for a category scheme for fords is use proper name if it exists, and if not <watercourse> ford in/near <location>. Of course, if the stream is unnamed that would be just Ford in/near <location>. If further disambiguation is needed, the street could work. Adding the watercourse will mean fords on more important rivers will have a category name relating it to the river.

As for consensus on Commons? I doubt this matter will be discussed outside of this thread, real discussion is rare here unfortunately :(--Nilfanion (talk) 01:10, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I've renamed all the ones that clearly need renaming in Category:Fords in Devon. More than I expected, I must confess. Where at least one of the original photographs uses the same 'X Ford' name as the category, I've taken that as confirmation that the given name is correct and not renamed. Of course that does rely on the photographer getting it right. Do you think that is reasonable, before I go back and revisit the counties I've already done. -- Chris j wood (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Have to say Category:Ide Ford was a particularly bad one - Category:Ideford is somewhere else entirely!

That's probably a reasonable cut-off, as at worst it means we are following someone else's mistake - instead of making the error ourselves. A more stringent standard would be better longer term, but also just gets in the way.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Beeston transport interchange 2016-05-01 13.52.32.jpg

Hi. Just to let you know I delete this file you uploaded, a diagrammatic poster of the Beeston NET stop. This is because there is no freedom of panorama in the UK for 2D graphical works. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Penlee Memorial Garden 2017-06-26 10.32.15.jpg

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T168949

Your file's actually fine, but the server's not rendering it right. I'm trying to get this fixed. Guanaco (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I'd assumed I'd uploaded the wrong image, but I can now see that if I view it in a different resolution, it is fine. Never seen that before. Anyway I've withdrawn the deletion request in the hope you can sort the rendering. -- Chris j wood (talk) 13:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I haven't touched MediaWiki code in years, but hopefully the dev team can figure it out. Bug's reported. Guanaco (talk) 13:54, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Categorization question

Could you please link me to a policy or guideline explaining the sort of categorization sorting you are doing with time stamps? I would like to understand the rationale behind it. Ainali (talk) 20:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ainali: I'm not aware of any policies or guidelines in this area. Generally I only do it to a category where I am adding one or more photos, and where I cannot see any kind of previous ordering of the files within the category, either by using the | symbol or by naming standard, and where there is no obviously better ordering that could be used. In the case of Category:Duvholmen I had added File:Views from the Stockholm Helsinki ferry in Sweden 07.jpg (not named by me) to the category, and when I came to look at the category the files were just in an arbitrary order based on no particular naming standard. The category subject is a fairly small location, and there didn't seem to be any better ordering that worked for it (eg. by geography or function). I took the view that sorting by date at least gives some sort or order, and cannot possibly be worse that an effectively unordered set. If you feel that is wrong, please explain, and I'll try and take your comments on board. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure I feel it is wrong per se, it was more that it was the first time I have seen anyone do that sort of sorting during my ten years here and was wondering if I had miss some important policies. Personally, I feel that alphabetical sorting would be the most obvious, especially since that is the one that is used on probably more than 99,99% of the files. But I am open to new ideas, but it should probably be discussed on the village pump before something is implemented. Ainali (talk) 13:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

But alphabetic sorting on what?. Let me be clear, in no sense am I proposing that everything should be sorted on date. I think a call needs to be made for each category, and I only put in date sorting where I feel that makes sense. There are other alternatives. For example where a category contains images of buildings in a street, I have sorted on building number. But just doing an alpha sort on the filename only really makes sense if the filenames have been sensibly chosen. Whilst this (usually) is the case for sub-categories, it rarely is for photographs, which tend to be given all sorts of arbitrary names, sometimes even just the name generated by the camera. -- Chris j wood (talk) 13:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Well, unless anything else than alphabetical order is used, and it not documented on the category page, the result is even more arbitrary to a user, since there is no way to tell why the files suddenly is in a different order. Especially if they sometimes are by date and sometimes by building number (and sometimes by something else someone thought made sense at the time) but there is no way to tell which. At least for alpha sorts, they are future proof, since we don't rely on new users having to know what way any aritrary category are supposed to be sorted on. Ainali (talk) 15:09, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I do accept that (the "why on earth is it in that order" question) but I'm not sure what the use case is where people need to know what order they are in. If they know the filename, then they would presumably search rather than manually scan categories, and if they don't know the names, I'm not sure how it helps them knowing why an image called File:D810 0250 (14745253993).jpg comes after one called File:810 1765 Ljusterö August 2015 (20490022359).jpg (to pick some perhaps slightly, but not very, extreme examples). By all means ask the question on the village pump. -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

That is actually a quite good example. In what way does it help a user that they are sorted by date, if they do not know that they are? In a way, you are making edits, that makes files show up in watchlists for no good reason and (albeit of marginal importance) put load on the servers when there is no benefit for anyone. I haven't found any examples, but a possible scenario is also that your edits make files of a certain kind (possibly by the same uploader) harder to find if they are not all in one sequence. My point is mostly, that no one stands to gain from this arbitrary re-sorting unless you make an extra effort to clearly mark the categories as sorted in a differnt way, so you could just save yourself the energy completely if you are not willing to make that effort. Ainali (talk) 16:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

I just want to thank you for the great work you have done categorizing the files in Category:Stockholm archipelago. /ℇsquilo 15:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

God Jul and thanks Chris J. Wood. Bengt Nyman (talk) 19:24, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you both for all the wonderful photographs. I have enjoyed the challenge of identifying them. God Jul. -- Chris j wood (talk) 19:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Duplicate files

Hi Chris, I understand you have come across a number of photographs of mine which have been uploaded once by myself from flickr and later slightly modified and uploaded by somebody else from Panoramio. If, at your convenience, you care to send me a list of these filenames I will be happy to nominate the approprierat ones for deletion. Thanks for all your fine work labeling and categorizing many of my photographs from the Swedish archipelago. Bengt Nyman (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bengt, I've tabulated the duplicates I've found so far in User:Chris j wood/duplicates. If I find any more, I will add them there. -- Chris j wood (talk) 12:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Don’t do…

…this, unless there’s material to populate a sibling Category:Trams on route 166‎. In either case, if you moved these three subcats, you should have moved also the eight images you left at Category:Number 166 on trams. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 14:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tuválkin: Sorry, but I don't understand that. You seem to be saying that the category Trams with fleet number 166 should only exist if we have images of trams on route 166. That seems a very strange way of doing things. At the very least if we are going to do that, we need to rename Category:Trams by fleet number to something more accurate (say Category:Trams by fleet number, where the fleet numbers happen to correspond to route numbers). -- Chris j wood (talk) 14:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tuválkin: The point about the eight images is a good one, and I have now recategorised them as you suggested. -- Chris j wood (talk) 14:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

• Yes, I'm saying that: No need to dissiminate Category:Number N on trams into any possible subcat unless we have some material that’s not suitable for the new subcats. In the case, all we had about trams with 166 were fleet numbers: no route numbers, no other misc. things. In my opinion, these 8 images and 3 subcats should have been left where they were. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tuválkin: So what we do about Category:Trams by fleet number then. If we do as you say, the danger is that it will mislead people into thinking it actually categorises trams by fleet number, rather than just a subset of trams by fleet number where the fleet number meets some otherwise undisclosed and arbitrary criteria (that it is also, somewhere in the world, a route number). Sorry but IMHO that just cannot be correct. -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

• All categories are misleading, as you say, if one supposes that any Category:Foos includes all inatances of foos in Commons. Many files are not categorized or incompletely categorized. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:17, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

• (Edit conflict) ::* Hmm, what you say about «Trams by fleet number, where the fleet numbers happen to correspond to route numbers» makes no sense. Pls compare with cases like Category:Number 9906 on vehicles: In that cat there’s 3 subcats splitting its contents — 6 images — of planes, rolling stock, and watercraft. If all those 6 images were of the same type of vehicle, such as in, say, Category:Number 9886 on vehicles, then with would not be necessary to split the cat. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:14, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tuválkin: Those examples are equally wrong, if they are indeed populated in the way you describe. The Category:Number 9906 on aircraft represents the intersection of Category:Numbers on aircraft and Category:Number 9906 on vehicles. That intersection exists quite irrespective of whether there happen to be any watercraft or rail vehicles numbered 9906, and the category should therefore be populated irrespective of whether watercraft or rail vehicles exist. The point you make about incomplete catagorisation is not relevant; of course the wiki is a work in progress and always will be, but there is a fundamental difference between something that hasn't yet been done, and something that is deliberately done wrongly. -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

• To be clear, my original suggestion aims for easy, sensible browsing; I don’t think that this kind of dissimination is wrong, just premature. However, three points:
  • Maybe consider stop saying that this kind of “incomplete” categorization is wrong. That’s umpleasant and goes against your correct assessment that Commons is a work in progress.
  • People searching for media in Commons are expected to be rational human agents, not pure logic bots. When not finding Category:Trams with fleet number N for a given value of N it is expected that one would, instead of assuming that such fleet number is never used for trams, rather go looking for Category:Number N on trams, and then, if needed, for Category:Number N on vehicles, and then Category:Number N on objects, etc. This kind of dissimination you’re doing and which I spoke against might not be wrong, but it’s not really critically useful or needed, either.
  • When creating new subcats for route numbers and fleet numbers under any Category:Number N on trams (either the kind I aprove of or not), please make sure you move all the contents. Clumping all kinds of number N on trams in a Category:Number N on trams without subcats may be bad (even if I think it’s okay), but leaving in it some files and subcats after you created Category:Trams with fleet number N and Category:Trams on route N is undisputedly bad (I just now had two dissiminate one photo and 2 subcats in №81 — maybe there’s more).

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 08:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tuválkin: Dealing with your bullet points in the order you present them:

• Sorry if you find it unpleasant, that was not my intention. Shall we say 'unhelpful to the end user' instead.
• Rational human beings can only work with the information known to them. Somebody browsing the Trams by fleet number would have no obvious way of realising there is a completely parallel set of categories they could look in. In order to help them, we should therefore, where we can, categorise all trams with a given fleet number in the Trams by fleet number structure.
• Not guilty. I did not create either Trams with fleet number 81 or Trams on route 81. According to the history both of those were created by you, back in 2014. Neither have I had any involvement with the two subcats or the image you moved.

Incidentally, I'm a bit doubtful of your move of RNV 4081. The contents of that category suggests the vehicles fleet number is 4081 not 81, despite the fact that the images clearly shows a number that looks like a fleet number of 81. May be the result of renumbering, or perhaps the operator truncates the number it paints on the vehicles, but my call here would have been to put the category in Trams with fleet number 4081 and Number 81 on trams. One of the things I've noticed in looking into this is that there are a fair number of images categorised in a Number x on trams category because of a number that is neither a fleet number nor a route number. Often this is clearly a running number, but sometimes something as bizarre as part of a phone number on an advertisement. No idea why anybody would think it is worth categorising on something like that, but it does go to show that there will be images directly in the Number x on trams category even where the fleet number and route number subcats are populated. -- Chris j wood (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Renames

Hi Chris, Just a heads up as per Commons:File_renaming#Which_files_should_not_be_renamed? #2 I've had to decline the Arabic > English rename requests,
Theoretically you could use Google Translation but there's no guarantee that would be correct,
Anyway thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Hi Davey. I'm afraid my arabic is non-existent, so I cannot provide correct arabic titles for these images, and my experience of the likes of Google translate is that they are not up to the job. I'm happy to use them in translating into my native tongue, which is how I know these files are incorrectly titled, but I wouldn't be happy using them to translate into a tongue I don't speak and cannot check.

However I'm a little puzzled at your application of Which_files_should_not_be_renamed #2, which states Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not English and/or is not correctly capitalized. Remember, Commons is a multilingual project, so there's no reason to favor English over other languages. In neither of the cases you declined (File:اسواق تجارية في لندن.jpg and File:شارع في لندن.jpg) is the language of the original title, or its capitalisation, the reason for the rename. The title of the first image is plain wrong as there is no way Commercial Markets in London can be regarded as a valid title for an image of a hotel in Manchester, irrespective of the language it is written in. The second case is more marginal, as Street in London is a very ambiguous, but not absolutely incorrect, title for an image of Park Lane.

I came across both of these, together with a third by the same submitter (of the well known Etihad Stadium in London !) whilst attempting to provide locations for images categorised in the Category:Unidentified locations in London, so my main thrust isn't the image name but the image's description and categorisation. But it sticks in the craw to leave images with mistaken or ambiguous titles, which would have been uncontroversially renamed if their original name had been in English, just because the wrong name is in a language I don't speak. I'm sure the current situation cannot be left as it is, with a title contradicting the description and categorisations, but I'm unsure how to proceed. What do you suggest?. Is there some way of requesting a bilingual (arabic/english) speaking editor or renamer to sort this out?. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chris, I do agree (and agreed at the time of declining) that having incorrect/plainly wrong file names is silly but I've interpreted NOT #2 as whatever language the file name is in - If it needs to be renamed it should be done so in that same language and that regardless of whether it's incorrect or not it shouldn't be renamed in English, But then again my interpretation could be wrong so I've asked at the Help Desk, If I'm indeed wrong on this then I'll rename them for you, Many thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 13:39, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Chris, Just a heads up I've moved the files, Technically I was correct files should be replaced in the same language but in this specific case as neither of us speak an ounce of Arabic and the uploader's not been on in nearly a year or so it was decided they should be moved,

I'm sorry if it seemed like I caused unnecessary drama - In a realistic world I'd love to rename everything in English but ofcourse policy forbids it (and I'm pretty much the only person who helps ease the renaming backlog here) so I prefer to tread very lightly on things like this,

Thank you for your patience tho and again sorry for the unnecessary drama,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:05, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Best to get it sorted properly. -- Chris j wood (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

About the Green Park

Hi Chris. I removed the picture from the category because the category "Green Park" is used for the Olympic Park of the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics, not for the park that is mentioned on the picture. You should find the correct category. Best regards. --BugWarp (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@BugWarp - Ah, I see. Somebody slipped up there; Category:Green Park should have been created as a category disambiguator years ago. It is now, which means that any attempts to assign it to an image will be flagged up. I've moved your category to Category:Green Park, Buenos Aires and fixed up all the links. -- Chris j wood (talk) 18:31, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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I thought Crown Dependencies were treated as being part of the UK, or has something changed? Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Not if the category structure under Category:Isle of Man by year is anything to go by. Each of the yyyy in the Isle of Man categories under that category are directly members of the yyyy by country and yyyy in Europe categories, and are not members of yyyy in the United Kingdom or similar. So the IoM is, at least in this case, being treated as an independent country. Why did you think Crown Dependencies were treated as being part of the UK; if there is a policy or consensus to that effect then I'm not aware of it, which is of course entirely possible. -- Chris j wood (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm in the process of sorting out a set of yyyy in rail transport in the Isle of Man categories, largely triggered by me noticing that another user had used cat-a-lot to move an image of Laxey station from Category:2012 in rail transport in the United Kingdom to Category:2012 in rail transport in England, which was clearly wrong on several different levels. I'll hold off doing any more until this gets sorted. -- Chris j wood (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

@Chris j wood: OK, that makes sense, stick with what's already been done. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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CCFL 327

At Category:Lisbon tram 327 (standard) a source is quoted to say that the carbody is elsewhere and «the remainder held by the Crich Museum». Isn’t this the same as the National Tramway Museum? -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 06:01, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@Tuvalkin: - Yes, Crich Tramway Village is a marketing name for the National Tramway Museum (NTM), which is in Crich, Derbyshire. I saw the source you refer to, but we don't seem to have any pictures of 327 (or its remains) at the NTM/Crich. I've been gradually going through all the photos of the NTM, and normalising the tramcar ones into categories called something like Xyz tram nnn at Crich that have the existing category Xyz tram nnn as a parent, so we don't end up with pictures clearly not taken at Crich in a category structure about the NTM. I cannot do that for 327, because it would result in an empty Category:Lisbon tram 327 (standard) at Crich, which would likely be automatically deleted by a bot. I'm open to other suggestions as to what to do, but as we don't have a picture, does it really matter that we don't have a category?. -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for your reply. We can safely create Category:Lisbon tram 327 (standard) at Crich and fill it with {{Prospective category}}; even if free photos cannot be found soon, I am planning a map of Europe akin to this one. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 13:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

@Tuvalkin: - Ok, I've done as you have suggested. Also copied this thread into the category talk page. - Chris j wood (talk) 17:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Wil–Winterthur railway line

I think Category:Wil–Winterthur railway line is effectively a subset of Category:St. Gallen–Winterthur line; the German and English Wikipedias don't distinguish now and treat it as one long line. Any objection to a merge? Best, Mackensen (talk) 16:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mackensen: Yes, I think I would agree. Certainly no objection to such a merge. -- Chris j wood (talk) 16:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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